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Kathleen Clark's avatar

Powerful! Especially the quote by Winston Churchill, quite sobering.

Thank you, Sir, for continuing to fight for truth, justice and our country. God bless.

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Out of the park Sir.

I humbly submit this long recommendation to the Steadfast & Loyal Members.

SteveB

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Steadfast & Loyal Members

I never knew the US House does not have the Representatives, personally, recite “The Oath of Office.”

LTC West & I have both have taken and/or administered “The Officer & Enlisted Oath” so many times we cannot count.  

“The Oath” was always preceded with the phrase “Raise your right hand and repeat after me.”

I realize that it gets pretty loud when 435 members of “The House” repeats “The Oath” every 2-years.

There should be a Law that requires “The Oath” be verbally repeated.  In my opinion an oath is not valid unless recited in your own words.  Yes, an exception for a person that cannot physically speak.

Many Americans do not realize that there is a different oath for and enlisted and officers.

Why are Officers and Enlisted Oaths Different?

Over the years I learned the difference as follows.  

Both officers and enlisted service members swear:  

“I _______, do  swear (or affirm) that I will  support and defend the US Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic;”

but in the “Oath of Enlistment,”

service members swear:  

“that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the Officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”

Officers do not include that they will obey the orders of the President…  in their “Oath of Office.”

Instead, officers also swear:  

“that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.”

Why are the two oaths different and what does it mean that officers do not swear obedience to the President or higher-ranking Officers?

Officers are bound to obey the President and officers appointed over them through the US Constitution not directly.

This concept traces back to the intentions of the Founding Fathers who created our governing system with a separation of powers and series of checks and balances between the three branches. This ensures no single branch or person gains too much power and becomes corrupted.

By swearing allegiance to The US Constitution, a set of ideals and laws, our military officers are not bound by the orders of a single person, rather they are dedicated to the defense of the people and their way-of-life.

Neither the “Officers or Enlisted Oaths” obligate a person to follow an unlawful order.

Please cut & paste the oaths.  

They will move you.

Officer’s Oath

https://youtu.be/S1c1vjlIFJs?si=sElenHK82P2A1IBM

Enlisted Oath

https://youtu.be/-HaVIMIDy4o?si=ZliDoUHXHzHz5ydr

When hearing or reciting “The Oath,” a military member gets tears in the eyes, a tightness in the chest, goose bumps, and a feeling of pride that spans the years from the “Sons of Liberty” in 1775 to Today’s Service Members that “Man-the-Walls-of-Freedom.”

Here are some ideas to pass around America.

1.  “The Oath” is a private matter between the individual and the US Constitution but should be recited out loud by the person taking ”The Oath.”

2.  Oaths must always be administered in English.

3.  It would be a cherished document to be presented a “suitable for framing” copy of “The Oath.”  “Signed” by the person taking  “The Oath” and signed by the person administering “The Oath.”  Yes, a copy of “The Oath” would be maintained by the government branch giving “The Oath.“

4.  A formal oath would be signed when a person enlists, is commissioned, etc.

5.  When taking a formal oath, a “Pocket Constitution” containing the US Constitution with Amendments, The Declaration of Independence, the Gettysburg Address, and other patriotic material would be presented to the person taking the oath.

6.  An impromptu oath would not necessarily be signed when a person is promoted or other times when an oath is given to renew a person’s commitment to the US Constitution.  I can remember the entire formation taking “The Oath” on special occasions like the Marine Corps Birthday, an “Officer Call,”  a motivator, etc.

7.  It was always an “Honor” to take or administer “The Oath.”

8.  Every US Citizen should take the “Naturalization Oath” or another suitable oath when they turn 18 (sometime during their 18th year).  For prestige and logistics “The Oath” could be administered at high school graduation or other suitable locations.  I have no doubt that there would be a line of retired military officers, retired judges, other government officers, etc. that would gladly volunteer to administer “The Oath” at various government offices, VFW’s, etc.  Yes, the person taking “The Oath” would be presented with a, “suitable for framing” “signed” copy of “The Oath.”  Yes, the 18-year-old person taking “The Oath” would take & must pass a Civics test based on the same test bank as a Naturalized citizen.

Yes, it might cost $10 per person to establish this program but think of the added value over time.  I bet corporations and individuals would be waiting in line to donate and volunteer.

Cut & Paste into a URL and listen & read.

Naturalization Oath

U.S. Oath of Allegiance - Hear and Read the Full Text

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv0WOzEv39k

128 Civics Questions and Answers (2025 Version Civic Questions and Answers for the Naturalization Test - 2025 Version

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/questions-and-answers/2025-Civics-Test-128-Questions-and-Answers.pdf

9.  Every School, Government Meeting, or gathering should start with the Pledge of Allegiance and National Anthem.  The National Anthem used to play at the beginning of most theater movies, sports games,  and the Pledge of Allegiance was recited every morning in schools.

President Trump could enact the above recommendations by Executive Order today.  

Of course, the “Left” would sue him, but I believe his Executive Order would “Hold” for the Executive Department.  

Maybe the Judiciary, Congress, and State Government would be embarrassed and follow suit.  Congress might even write a Law.  The “Left” needs something Patriotic to run on for the Midterm elections.  The time is right.  Yes, there would need to be a penalty for those small “a” americans that refuse to swear to “The Oath.”  I will let the lawyers work out the details.  For me it would mean no oath equals no citizenship, no benefits of any kind, period….

What a better 250th Birthday Present to OUR Great Nation then to improve the method that we Honor Her.

Note to all the read this.   Run with it.  Improve it.  Spread the word.

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